I still smell that first cedar chest.
The air felt crisp.
My small radio hummed.
I placed clamps across the lid and felt good.
A week later I ripped white oak for a dining bench.
The saw growled.
Warm chips curled across my boots.
Those two jobs taught a simple truth.
Choosing oak vs cedar wood is really choosing how the piece will live.
You want clear answers.
You also crave calm shop tips.
I promise both.
We will cover grain feel finish and price.
We will map each board to the right indoor and outdoor role.
I will share slip ups and quick fixes.
By the end you will stand in the lumber aisle with calm eyes and a sure grip.
Quick Picks For Busy Builders
Use this short list if you need a fast call.
- Oak suits dining tables chairs desks frames beds shelves
- Cedar suits outdoor seats planters closet lining blanket chests
- Select white oak for splash zones
- Select western red cedar for decks and eastern red cedar for closet parts
- Oak feels heavy and hard while cedar feels light and weather wise
- Oak loves stain while cedar glows under clear oil
Keep reading for the full why.
Basic Wood Facts You Can Trust
Botany calls oak a hardwood because it comes from a leaf tree.
It calls cedar a softwood because it comes from a needle tree.
Hardness in the shop still lines up.
Oak fights dents while cedar yields.
Oak At A Glance
- Main types include white oak and red oak
- White oak holds blocked pores that slow water
- Red oak holds open pores that drink water
- Janka hardness sits near one thousand three hundred for white and one thousand two hundred for red
- Weight sits near forty five pounds per cubic foot when dry
- Look shows bold grain with ray fleck on quarter faces and warm brown tone
What this means for you.
Oak resists dents.
It glues well on fresh joints.
Sharp blades leave smooth cuts.
Pre drill near edges.
Oak tannin reacts with iron so grab stainless screws in damp sites.
Cedar At A Glance
Cedar names many cousins yet most shops meet two.
- Western red cedar
- Light weight near twenty eight pounds per cubic foot
- Janka near three hundred fifty
- Reddish pink heart
- Mild scent
- Strong rot guard
- Eastern red cedar also called aromatic cedar
- Janka near nine hundred
- Violet brown heart with pale sap lines
- Stronger scent
- Great for closet parts
Shop sense.
Cedar cuts easy.
It sands in a blink.
Fasteners slide with little fight.
Knots pop up often.
Dust can itch so wear a firm mask.
Cedar moves less with humidity than many softwoods.
Strength Wear And Weather
Pick smart and you save hours later.
Wear And Strength
Oak takes the wear crown.
Seat edges table tops chair rungs and stair treads all like oak.
Cedar dents sooner.
Use thicker cedar rails to gain stiffness though thick parts can feel chunky.
Practical rules.
- Oak for thin rails and long spans
- Cedar for thick slats and short spans
- Oak for tight mortise and tenon work
- Cedar for screw plus plug joints on wide boards
Weather And Bugs
Cedar holds natural oils that chase rot and insects.
Western red cedar endures rain with light care.
It turns silver in sun without a clear coat.
Eastern red cedar repels moths inside closets.
Oak divides in this area.
- White oak stands strong in wet spots
- Red oak pulls water fast which harms the piece
Barrel makers trust white oak because water stays inside the staves.
Red oak works like a straw at the end grain.
That harms garden builds.
Weight And Handling
Oak feels heavy.
A full oak table rarely moves alone.
Weight helps on windy decks yet hinders stairs.
Cedar feels light and easy.
Seasonal chairs store without strain.
Shop Notes For Smooth Work
I milled both woods all month last year.
These tips saved bits and nerves.
Milling And Shaping
Oak loves fresh keen edges.
Dull blades burn oak and leave fuzzy marks.
Cedar planes sweet at a steep angle yet tears near knots.
Take thin passes.
A spiral planer head leaves glass faces on cedar.
On the router creep with climb cuts on tough cedar grain.
Joinery Choices
Oak keeps crisp shoulders on joints.
Fit tenons snug then clamp with calm pressure.
Oak drinks glue on end grain so brush a thin size coat first.
Cedar likes more surface in joints.
Use screws plus plugs or loose tenons with epoxy for outdoor life.
Cedar can crush under clamp pads so add wide blocks.
Fastener Smarts
Oak tannin blackens next to raw iron in damp air.
Choose stainless or coated screws for safety.
Cedar plays kinder yet stainless still wins outdoors.
Dust And Health
Cedar dust can tickle lungs.
Oak dust can do the same.
Run good extraction and wear eye plus ear guards every cut.
Finish And Color That Last
Finish style often drives final mood and life span.
Oak Finish Tips
Oak drinks stain well.
That open grain adds depth.
Try this simple plan.
- Sand to one hundred fifty on red oak or one hundred eighty on white oak
- Raise grain with a damp rag then sand light
- Wipe a water dye for tone
- Seal with a thin shellac wash
- Wipe an oil varnish blend for warmth and muscle
- Add two thin wipe poly coats on high wear tops
Hard wax oil also feels rich yet needs annual care.
For outdoor white oak brush marine spar or yearly oil.
Cedar Finish Tips
Cedar can blotch under stain.
Clear coats shine.
Outdoor western red cedar enjoys two clear paths.
- Let it weather silver and wash yearly
- Brush a deep oil with ultraviolet block two times a year on bright decks
- Use marine spar if you accept sanding duties later
Indoor eastern red cedar often stays bare.
For chests seal outside only and keep the scent inside.
For closet boards leave the face bare and renew with a soft sand yearly.
Pro move.
Wax screws so cedar edges stay clean.
Cost And Supply
Rates change by state and season yet a few trends stay.
- Red oak often costs less than many hardwoods
- White oak costs more than red oak and sells fast in clear wide boards
- Western red cedar can match white oak on price in clear grades
- Eastern red cedar arrives in smaller boards with many knots
I shop by grain first.
Skip twisted lengths.
Pay for clear boards when faces show.
Use knotty boards in hidden rails.
Oak vs Cedar Wood By Project
Matching board to job saves tools and time.
Dining Tables And Desks
Pick oak.
It shrugs daily wear.
White oak gives tight grain and more water grace.
Red oak saves cash and shows classic loops.
Cedar feels too soft for a family top.
Coffee And Side Tables
Oak fits living rooms.
It laughs at feet and mugs.
White oak plus a flat wax feels modern.
Want a light vibe.
Try cedar top over oak frame and add glass to guard the cedar face.
Chairs And Benches
Oak leads again.
Thin parts need strength.
For garden benches mix cedar slats on white oak legs.
That blend cuts weight and boosts life.
Beds And Headboards
Oak rails stay stiff.
Add cedar panels if you enjoy scent.
Line a blanket chest with eastern red cedar.
Shelving
Oak spans long runs with ease.
Edge band plywood shelves with oak strips to save coins.
Cedar works for short decor shelves when boards stay thick.
Storage And Closet
Eastern red cedar rules closets.
Tongue and groove boards mount on furring strips.
Leave faces raw for aroma.
For dressers build oak cases and cedar drawer bottoms.
Outdoor Furniture
Western red cedar stands tall on the patio.
It resists bugs and rain.
Round edges to slow wear.
White oak also lives outside though heavy.
Skip red oak here.
Planters And Boxes
Cedar wins.
It handles wet soil and stays light.
Use stainless screws and line with fabric.
Bath And Laundry Builds
Choose white oak.
It stands steam better than red oak.
Seal every edge then vent the room.
Cedar shelves fit baskets.
Design Notes And Style
Oak owns presence.
Quarter faces show ray fleck that sings craftsman style.
White oak looks sleek with matte oil.
Red oak pairs with rustic rooms.
Cedar feels warm.
Western red cedar ages to soft silver outside.
Eastern red cedar hides inside drawers and greets noses each time you open them.
Blend both for contrast.
Oak frames with cedar panels add soft texture.
Cedar seat slats on oak legs feel light yet stay firm.
A Simple Bench Plan In Both Woods
This plan fits a hall or porch.
Change wood and finish to match space.
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Overall size*
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Length forty two inches
- Depth fourteen inches
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Height eighteen inches
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Oak Stock*
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Top glue three boards five by one by forty two inches
- Aprons two boards four by one by thirty six inches
- Legs four sticks one point seven five square by eighteen inches
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Stretcher one board three by one by thirty four inches
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Cedar Stock*
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Top glue three boards six by one point two five by forty two inches
- Aprons two boards four point five by one point two five by thirty six inches
- Legs four sticks two square by eighteen inches
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Stretcher one board three point five by one point two five by thirty four inches
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Joinery*
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Oak uses mortise and tenon at apron to leg
- Top mounts with figure eight clips
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Cedar uses dowels with epoxy and stainless screws through oval slots
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Finish*
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Oak indoor uses water dye plus shellac plus wipe poly
- Cedar outdoor uses two oil coats each spring
I built both.
The oak bench lives by the table.
The cedar bench sits on the porch.
Each still looks fresh.
Common Mistakes And Quick Fixes
- Red oak outdoors soaks water
- Move under cover or seal end grain heavy
- Staining cedar leads to blotch
- Wipe thin shellac first or stay clear
- Plain steel screws in oak stain black
- Swap to stainless and clean marks with oxalic acid
- Cedar parts cut too thin sag
- Add thickness or shorten spans
- Dry oak end grain starves glue
- Brush a thin glue size first
Care Plans That Add Years
- Oak indoor
- Wipe with mild soap then dry
- Refresh oil each year if used
- Oak outdoor
- Wash in spring
- Scuff with fine pad
- Recoat spar each second year or oil each spring
- Cedar outdoor
- Hose dirt then brush cleaner
- Reoil mid spring and late summer or let it silver
- Cedar indoor
- Light sand closet boards each year for scent
- Leave chest interiors raw
Hybrid Builds That Give Best Of Both
- Oak frames with cedar panels in mudroom cabinets
- White oak legs with cedar seat slats on deck chairs
- Oak desktop with cedar drawer liners
- Oak shelf with cedar back boards
Test finish on scraps because oil darkens cedar more than oak.
A shellac coat evens tone.
Decision Path You Can Save
Answer these prompts.
- Rain expected
- Pick western red cedar or white oak
- Long thin rails
- Pick oak
- Moth guard desired
- Line with eastern red cedar
- Need light build
- Pick cedar
- Want strong grain for stain
- Pick oak
Tool Kit Checklists
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Oak*
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Sharp rip blade
- Clean brad point bits
- Card scraper for end grain
- Keen chisels
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Random orbit sander with fresh discs
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Cedar*
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Low angle block plane
- Spiral cutter planer
- Good mask
- Countersink bit plus tapered pilot bit
- Small round over bit on edges
Style Matches For Rooms
White oak fits modern craftsman and Nordic rooms.
Pair with linen wool brushed steel and stone.
Red oak fits farmhouse spaces and takes dark stain well.
Western red cedar lifts relaxed porch setups with canvas cushions.
Eastern red cedar hides behind drawer fronts and offers scent.
Fast Answers To Common Searches
Is Cedar Wood Better Than Oak
Better depends on job.
Cedar rules outdoors and closets because it blocks rot and bugs and stays light.
Oak rules indoor furniture because it stands heavy use and dents less.
Is Oak Or Cedar More Expensive
Prices shift by yard.
Red oak often costs less than western red cedar.
White oak often costs more than red oak.
Clear western red cedar can match white oak.
Eastern red cedar sells mid range in small boards.
What Are The Drawbacks Of Cedar
Cedar dents easy.
Knots appear often.
Thicker parts add bulk.
Western red cedar needs oil or you accept silver fade.
The strong scent can overwhelm tight rooms.
What Is A Drawback Of Oak
Oak weighs a lot.
Big pieces strain movers.
Oak tannin blackens around raw iron in damp spots.
Red oak fails in rain because it sucks water fast.
Real Shop Notes
My first cedar chest lost its scent because I sealed the inside.
I sanded back to bare wood and the smell returned next day.
That white oak dining bench still holds after two years of family meals and dog naps.
A quick wipe coat each spring keeps the glow.
I rounded all edges on a cedar Adirondack pair.
Those edges still look smooth after six summers.
Sharp corners fail fast in sun.
Budget Tips
- Use red oak for hidden frames and save white oak for show faces
- Use cedar for slats and cheaper strong wood for hidden braces
- Buy shorter cedar boards for slats because the length costs more
- Buy quarter white oak in narrow widths for long rails
- Mill plugs from offcuts so grain matches
Glue ups work fine for wide tops.
Use cauls and tighten with steady force.
Take thin passes when you flatten.
Trouble Shots And Fixes
Oak tears on crosscut.
Use a sharp fine tooth blade or score the line then cut.
Cedar splits at screw end.
Pre drill larger and wax the screw.
Move holes inward by half inch.
Oak looks muddy under stain.
Sand back light.
Use dye first and seal clear.
Add thin glaze if needed.
Cedar blotches under color.
Seal first or stay clear.
Final Word
The board you pick shapes the story your piece will tell.
Oak stands firm and proud.
Cedar feels warm and easy.
Both reward care.
Pick with heart and build this weekend.
Your shop will smell great and your friends will ask who made that.
You will smile and answer I did.